Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Last Call?)

Message ID: 238066
Posted By: spamsux99
Posted On: 2005-02-18 09:49:00
Subject: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Last Call?)

Yahoo SCOX/CKX Crash And Burn Archive Project
Currently archiving 82896 posts from 128 posters

On January 14th, 2005 due to unknown reasons certain yahoo financial message boards started experiencing disappearing posts. On this date, cat_herder_5263 posted message id 223408 asking if anyone had archived the Yahoo SCOX message board. In SCOX message id 223465 I (spamsux99) replied that yes, in fact I do have an archive. I stated that anyone who would like archived copies needs to grant me permission to redistribute/republish their comments.

Responses to this post have led me to start the Yahoo SCOX Crash and Burn Archive Project. As you may know, at any time SCOX may either run out of cash, or lose their desperate legal lottery attempts to extract licensing fees from linux users. Once SCOX finally does crash and burn, they will be delisted and the Yahoo SCOX board will disappear. This project aims to preserve a record of the crash and burn, and to provide useful ways to access the content of these posts.

To make this project possible, I am asking for permisison from posters to either the Yahoo SCOX or Yahoo CKX financial message boards for rights to republish their comments under the CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 license. A copy of this license can be found at creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/. In case of the loss of posts by yahoo or the eventual shutdown of the board, I will archive copies of all posts by any poster who grants me these rights.

Periodically I will repost this message with a subject of "Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project". If you wish to make your posts available for archival under the CCL license, please reply with a simple message of "granted" to those posts on the Yahoo Message board. Due to rampant nym spoofing, only the actual Yahoo username replying to these posts is accepted. If you have multiple nyms, you have to logon as each one to grant permission.

The current home page of the Yahoo SCO/CKX Crash and Burn Project is http://badpenguins.com/yarchive/. A basic browser interface for searching and downloading search results in html, text, or sql dump formats is currently at badpenguins.com/yarchive/yaview/. Questions or requests can be emailed to mikey at badpenguins dot com.

Posters who have previously licensed their posts:

..to be continued

Message ID: 238067
Posted By: spamsux99
Posted On: 2005-02-18 09:50:00
Subject: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Part 2)

Posters who have previously licensed their posts:
aim_here2002, aka_whishing_well, alan_the_eagle, anadromous_cowherd, annoyingcoward, any_old_email, astolmit, atul666, autoplonk, barkinfullforce, be2weenthelines, BigBadLonewolf, big_moorlygho1, bike4freedom2, billsebok, bobothewonderpenguin, boyle_m_owl, br3nsc, brockian_ultra_cricket, bruce_s01, bullwood42, calibre97, cassini_watcher, cat_herder_5263, cbdudley7, chiefpad, codemangler, codswallet, ColonelZen, crunchie812, crunichy_loser, daavery54, deepdistrust, diogenese19348, div_2n, doubleaught7, dreadpenguin, droneckx, edlin_user, Eric_J_Landes, fannyminix, finman65, flimbag, floccinaucinihilipilificatrix, fnordius, frogstar_robot, g7syj3000, gopher_byrd, hconnormt, heimdal31, hgclayton, hjweth, idiot_spavint, indignantflightlesswaterfowl, infosecgroupie, ink_engineer, i_am_fava, jgabriel66, jldill22, josephjanthony, jwhitf, karl_w_lewis, kernelzen, korbomite, laughing_vergil, leclite, lordshipmayhem, manyhats23, mathgeezer, mck9@swbell.net, MikeinTx98, moonrealestate2000, mrbuttle, mstormrage, mulletscooper, muttering_sot, napoleon_reddress, nobbutl, nono2sco, notmrnice, oddtodd67, other_opinions, ot_hstoop, paulshirley2002, pentiger31250, PG_King, phandsvrta, preadapted, pumicepete, randomscotroll, rex007can, rgriffith64, room_one_oh_one, ruidhmurphy, r_u_a_pita, saltydogmn, scotrollbait, scott_hanson, scox_on_the_rox, scox_wowbagger, sco_sho_path, sesostris_iii2000, shades6662004, sleeper72003, sonofnergal, spamsux99, span1sh1nqu1s1t1on, steve_houseman, stimpsonsaid, superspod, surfinserf, tampa_bayer, tech_nix_yoda, thaddeusbeier, thanatopsis1011, thombone200x, tigerkitty2, tinfoilhat_brigade1138, tomfallsdown, tomhudson411, tom_traynor, tortiusmaximus, tranniexenix, t_i_m_ransom, walterbyrd, welcome_2_wally_world, whoreignsinmajesty, winterchild99

Message ID: 238075
Posted By: doughnuts_hmm
Posted On: 2005-02-18 09:57:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Last Cal

permission granted

Message ID: 238076
Posted By: peragirn
Posted On: 2005-02-18 09:58:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Last Ca

Well if my name isn't on the list then you can put it there. I don't really care as I consider this open conversation.

Message ID: 238089
Posted By: ruidhmurphy
Posted On: 2005-02-18 10:09:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Part 2)

Actually, I earlier granted republishing rights to all my "troll" accounts as well. I might as well list them here for you.

bobothewonderpenguin
bobsilveresq
centiskiba
deciskiba
forceinbackdoor
wreck_ho
bill_gollum

Message ID: 238099
Posted By: spamsux99
Posted On: 2005-02-18 10:13:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B - stats?

My personal favorites are stats, miss_cleo, and Al Petrofsky. I would love to have them in there. However, I don't consider it any of my business why anyone makes their own choices in this regard.

I would certainly appreciate having their comments around for the historical record, I never miss reading each of their posts very carefully. I consider them the signal in a vast expanse of noise :)

Message ID: 238113
Posted By: spamsux99
Posted On: 2005-02-18 10:24:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Part 2)

Ruid, all I can do is repeat:

"Due to rampant nym spoofing, only the actual Yahoo username replying to these posts is accepted. If you have multiple nyms, you have to logon as each one to grant permission."

I don't want to open myself up to legal expense. You might recall that yahouvre has been crippled after one poster made what I consider a not-veiled legal threat because he didn't happen to like Andy. I personally don't believe he would have a legal leg to stand on, but that is not the point. The point is to avoid needlessly exposing myself to any legal expense just to provide an archive.

Gone are the days you could take comfort in the openness of the internet. There are just too many wackos out there who would start claiming they own certain nyms, such and such doesn't own that nym, etc... The simplest solution is to only take grants from the profile of the logged in user...

Message ID: 238230
Posted By: spamsux99
Posted On: 2005-02-18 13:42:00
Subject: Quick Stats

Just got done entering everybody up to this post.

We are now up to 95,841 posts from 167 posters.

Total posters: 5,230

Total Posts SCOX: 234,074
Total Posts CKX: 14,845
Total Posts: 248,919

That would mean 38.5% of all posts by approximately 3% of the total posters are archived :)

Message ID: 238241
Posted By: walterbyrd
Posted On: 2005-02-18 13:57:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Last Ca

Granted.

Message ID: 238242
Posted By: rgriffith64
Posted On: 2005-02-18 13:58:00
Subject: Re: Quick Stats

> That would mean 38.5% of all posts by approximately 3% of the total posters are archived :)

Just to make your life more complicated, you could also break this down by 6 month or 1 year period (start/end message #)
I expect a lot of the earlier posters have disappeared and you will have the best coverage for the current quarter where people are active and seeing your archive requests.

Message ID: 238258
Posted By: leclite
Posted On: 2005-02-18 14:21:00
Subject: C&B project: PLEASE ARCHIVE ALL POSTS

you only need permission to PUBLISH, not archive.

you can always receive permission ex-post facto.

not sure if you are already *archiving* all posts, or only those that have granted permission to *publish*.

Message ID: 238261
Posted By: superspod
Posted On: 2005-02-18 14:23:00
Subject: Re: C&B project: PLEASE ARCHIVE ALL POS

Just to chip in here:

Irrespective of whether a poster licenses all his/her posts, you could still quote excerpts from a post under "fair use."

Therefore, I would also recommend you archive (but not publish) all posts.

Message ID: 238267
Posted By: spamsux99
Posted On: 2005-02-18 14:29:00
Subject: Re: Quick Stats

Argh! I suck at that sort of thing.

Anyone is welcome to take a look at the source and submit patches or suggest how to implement this - the viewer is at badpenguins.com/source/yaview/, this will show the database structure. The sucker is at badpenguins.com/source/yasuck/.

Any dba's who could whip out some relevant sql and/or php for me would be greatly appreciated :)

Message ID: 238269
Posted By: spamsux99
Posted On: 2005-02-18 14:32:00
Subject: Re: C&B project: PLEASE ARCHIVE ALL POST

The published posts at badpenguins.com/yarchive/ all come out of my full private archive...

Right now the site might be a little slow, I am attempting to update all recs before scox goes bye bye.

Message ID: 238480
Posted By: boyle_m_owl
Posted On: 2005-02-19 01:07:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Last Cal

Way back in January when you started this, I granted you permission to archive my stuff. Please continue to do so.

:-D

--
Dan

Message ID: 238483
Posted By: al_petrofsky
Posted On: 2005-02-19 02:50:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Last Cal

Everyone is hereby expressly granted
permission to reproduce, with
attribution, any of my posts to Yahoo
boards.

This includes permission to redistribute
according to the terms of any of the
Creative Commons licenses.

Message ID: 238654
Posted By: hamjudo2000
Posted On: 2005-02-19 23:33:00
Subject: Re: Yahoo SCOX/CKX C&B Project (Part 2)

license granted.

The texts of these Yahoo Message Board posts have been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board users "spamsux99", "doughnuts_hmm", "peragirn", "ruidhmurphy", "walterbyrd", "rgriffith64", "leclite", "superspod", "boyle_m_owl", "al_petrofsky", "hamjudo2000" under the following license: License: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.