Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsread.com! newsprint.newsread.com!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca! pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.202.85 From: Brian <br...@stanley-park.com> Subject: Four more glorious years... Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion Reply-To: br...@stanley-park.com Lines: 6 User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:07:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1099508877 24.71.223.147 (Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:07:57 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:07:57 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4066 of US Facism! God help us all. Brian
From: "Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" <bkva...@publishermvps.com> References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:47:07 -0600 Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-67-37-29-142.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net 67.37.29.142 Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu! logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!msrnewsc1! TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4067 Hi Brian (br...@stanley-park.com), in the newsgroups you posted: || of US Facism! || || God help us all. I was hoping the Canadians could have helped us Brian :( 4 more years of "More of the same"...yikes. Time to start working on Hilary's Campaign 2008 :o) -- Brian Kvalheim Microsoft Publisher MVP http://www.publishermvps.com ~pay it forward~ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu! border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy2so!pd7cy1no! shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.202.85 From: Brian <br...@stanley-park.com> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion Reply-To: br...@stanley-park.com References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> Lines: 22 User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: <Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:44:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1099601078 24.71.223.147 (Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:44:38 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:44:38 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4112 Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP] wrote: > Brian wrote: > || of US Facism! > || God help us all. > I was hoping the Canadians could have helped us Brian :( Better watch your step Brian K. - the Bush Thought Police may regard such remarks as disloyal. > 4 more years of "More of the same"...yikes. Time to start working on > Hilary's Campaign 2008 :o) I expect it will be much worse! I can't believe "The Land of The Free" re-elected a man who has done so much to curtail the personal freedoms of it's own citizens! You have loosed a venomous force upon the entire world - God help us all! Brian
From: "Kevin" <no...@nbell.com> References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> <Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:38:56 -0800 Lines: 63 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: <eqI7hC5wEHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-215-140-204.nlt-cres.charterpipeline.net 66.215.140.204 Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com! border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com! nntp.giganews.com!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.71.34.3! newsfeed.cwix.com!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4159 Brian, I guess, since you don't live in the United States, you have as much right to criticize us, as we do to criticize who you elect----which is little or none. I do however have to cut you a little slack, because you apparently are Canadian and are lacking in knowledge of the Untied State's political demographics and our political history. Here are a few points of fact. This United States is a democracy and as such our President and Vice President are elected by whole country, as prescribed by our Constitution, not just the West Coast and the Northeast. The West Coast states, the Northeast, and a very few Midwestern states are strongly in the Democrat Party camp, with the West Coast and Northeast being much more liberal, politically, than the rest of the country. They DO NOT make up the majority of the country, as much as they sometimes would like everyone to believe. The balance of the country(except for Hawaii) is moderate to conservative and that part of the country has become, over the last several decades, increasingly more conservative every year. The Democrat Party nominees(Kerry/Edwards) were among the most liberal of our country's politicians. Now a little history lesson. No nominees, who were both, far left liberals, have won election as President and Vice President of the United States since Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Wallace. And that was more than 60 years ago. Please note my comment above, that the majority of the country has been becoming more conservative every year. This should have made it quite obvious, that with the results as close as they were in 2000, the Democrat Party COULD have beaten President George W. Bush this year, by simply nominating two candidates that were moderate to conservative Democrats. Instead, they ran two of the most far left liberals in their party. The Democrat Party and it's membership have no one but themselves to blame for losing the election to the Republicans and the Bush/Cheney ticket. Off my soap box. "Brian" <br...@stanley-park.com> wrote in message news:Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no... > Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP] wrote: > > Brian wrote: > > || of US Facism! > > || God help us all. > > > I was hoping the Canadians could have helped us Brian :( > > Better watch your step Brian K. - the Bush Thought Police may regard such > remarks as disloyal. > > > 4 more years of "More of the same"...yikes. Time to start working on > > Hilary's Campaign 2008 :o) > > I expect it will be much worse! > > I can't believe "The Land of The Free" re-elected a man who has done so much > to curtail the personal freedoms of it's own citizens! > > You have loosed a venomous force upon the entire world - God help us all! > > Brian >
Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas! elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED! 53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.202.85 From: Brian <br...@stanley-park.com> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion Reply-To: br...@stanley-park.com References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> <Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no> <eqI7hC5wEHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> Lines: 57 User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: <7kVid.132745$%k.121791@pd7tw2no> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:57:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1099702659 24.71.223.147 (Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:57:39 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:57:39 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4161 Kevin wrote: > I guess, since you don't live in the United States, you have as much right > to criticize us, as we do to criticize who you elect----which is little or > none. That is funny coming from a US citizen since the USA has interfered in a number of elected democracies when it suited them - can you say Nicaragua? So you had better not lecture me about rights - you don't have a speck of ground to stand on! > I do however have to cut you a little slack, because you apparently are > Canadian and are lacking in knowledge of the Untied State's political > demographics and our political history. Here are a few points of fact. I have probably as much knowledge and history of US politics as you. > This United States is a democracy and as such our President and Vice > President are elected by whole country, as prescribed by our Constitution, > not just the West Coast and the Northeast. You mean like in 2000 and Florida? Yeah, right. <clipped for brevity> > Now a little history lesson. No nominees, who were both, far left > liberals, have won election as President and Vice President of the United > States since Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Wallace. And that was more than > 60 years ago. Really? You seem to have forgotten John F. Kennedy - do not forget his assassination and the coverup? > Please note my comment above, that the majority of the country has been > becoming more conservative every year. They have been incited by fear - that is the capital of the Republican party and they spent well! > This should have made it quite obvious, that with the results as close > as they were in 2000, the Democrat Party COULD have beaten President > George W. Bush this year, by simply nominating two candidates that were > moderate to conservative Democrats. Instead, they ran two of the most far > left liberals in their party. The Democrat Party and it's membership have > no one but themselves to blame for losing the election to the Republicans > and the Bush/Cheney ticket. You have a president that used the powers of his office to keep the people of the United States in a constant state of fear and unrest. Bush's election had more to do with manipulation than merit. Perhaps you should have a look at your country as viewed by peoples outside your borders - you may be unpleasantly surprised. Your Christian ethics look pretty threadbare when judged by your actions. Brian
From: "Kevin" <no...@nbell.com> References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> <Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no> <eqI7hC5wEHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <7kVid.132745$%k.121791@pd7tw2no> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 01:17:02 -0800 Lines: 86 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: <OBnEjF#wEHA.2836@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-215-140-204.nlt-cres.charterpipeline.net 66.215.140.204 Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com! border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.cwix.com! TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4175 You can't read either. I said nothing about national policy, I was speaking about you and I, on an individual basis. As to levels of knowledge. I think you confirmed my opinion with this response. Your John F. Kennedy comment proved my point. Jack Kennedy(Bobby and Ted were the liberals) was by any standard a moderate, a hawk, and fiscally, a conservative. He sponsored and got passed through Congress the largest tax cut in the history of the country(up to that point in time). Like I said, you proved my point. And lastly, you are an individual that is willing to make wildly unsupportable statements that are not founded in fact. Statements that I would never make about other nations. I think that says volumes about you as a person. "Brian" <br...@stanley-park.com> wrote in message news:7kVid.132745$%k.121791@pd7tw2no... > Kevin wrote: > > I guess, since you don't live in the United States, you have as much right > > to criticize us, as we do to criticize who you elect----which is little or > > none. > > That is funny coming from a US citizen since the USA has interfered in a > number of elected democracies when it suited them - can you say Nicaragua? > > So you had better not lecture me about rights - you don't have a speck of > ground to stand on! > > > I do however have to cut you a little slack, because you apparently are > > Canadian and are lacking in knowledge of the Untied State's political > > demographics and our political history. Here are a few points of fact. > > I have probably as much knowledge and history of US politics as you. > > > This United States is a democracy and as such our President and Vice > > President are elected by whole country, as prescribed by our Constitution, > > not just the West Coast and the Northeast. > > You mean like in 2000 and Florida? Yeah, right. > > <clipped for brevity> > > > Now a little history lesson. No nominees, who were both, far left > > liberals, have won election as President and Vice President of the United > > States since Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Wallace. And that was more than > > 60 years ago. > > Really? You seem to have forgotten John F. Kennedy - do not forget his > assassination and the coverup? > > > Please note my comment above, that the majority of the country has been > > becoming more conservative every year. > > They have been incited by fear - that is the capital of the Republican party > and they spent well! > > > This should have made it quite obvious, that with the results as close > > as they were in 2000, the Democrat Party COULD have beaten President > > George W. Bush this year, by simply nominating two candidates that were > > moderate to conservative Democrats. Instead, they ran two of the most far > > left liberals in their party. The Democrat Party and it's membership have > > no one but themselves to blame for losing the election to the Republicans > > and the Bush/Cheney ticket. > > You have a president that used the powers of his office to keep the people > of the United States in a constant state of fear and unrest. Bush's > election had more to do with manipulation than merit. > > Perhaps you should have a look at your country as viewed by peoples outside > your borders - you may be unpleasantly surprised. Your Christian ethics > look pretty threadbare when judged by your actions. > > Brian >
Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com! news3.optonline.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750! not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.202.85 From: Brian <br...@stanley-park.com> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion Reply-To: br...@stanley-park.com References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> <Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no> <eqI7hC5wEHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <7kVid.132745$%k.121791@pd7tw2no> <OBnEjF#wEHA.2836@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> Lines: 45 User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: <Bs9jd.134542$%k.110857@pd7tw2no> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:18:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1099768737 24.71.223.147 (Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:18:57 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:18:57 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4179 Kevin wrote: > You can't read either. I said nothing about national policy, I was > speaking about you and I, on an individual basis. The correct way to comment in a reply is to post the original comment and then rebut underneath, like this. So, just where does your rebuttal apply to my post? > Your John F. Kennedy comment proved my point. Jack Kennedy(Bobby and Ted > were the liberals) was by any standard a moderate, a hawk, and fiscally, > a conservative. He sponsored and got passed through Congress the largest > tax cut in the history of the country(up to that point in time). Like I > said, you proved my point. So says you. Just saying a thing, doesn't make it so. www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/presidents/35_kennedy/psources/ps_nyliberal.html > And lastly, you are an individual that is willing to make wildly > unsupportable statements that are not founded in fact. Which statements? Perhaps I can support said 'wildly unsupportable' statements with citations - be more specific. > Statements that I would never make about other nations. Perhaps you are too timid? I understand the Bush brown shirts regularly interview or spy on US citizens that comment unfavorably on the present regime. Get a dick, Kevin. > I think that says volumes about you as a person. I think your lack of collaborative argument speaks volumes about you. I repeat my question - Do you have any idea how the world outside your borders view the present United States of America? Brian
From: "Kevin" <no...@nbell.com> References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> <Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no> <eqI7hC5wEHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <7kVid.132745$%k.121791@pd7tw2no> <OBnEjF#wEHA.2836@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> <Bs9jd.134542$%k.110857@pd7tw2no> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 14:24:22 -0800 Lines: 86 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: <#jeWIiRxEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-215-140-136.nlt-cres.charterpipeline.net 66.215.140.136 Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu! logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!msrnewsc1! TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4197 The views you post are so outlandish that I'm not even going to comment on most of them. Kennedy was first and foremost a politician. Did you think he was going to address a Liberal Party convention and tell them how moderate he was? Try looking at some of his speeches on economic policy and world affairs. Kennedy was a social liberal, a fiscal conservative, a moderate on foreign affairs and fairly hawkish militarily. I would say that pretty much eliminates him from being classified as a "far left liberal". His voting record in the Senate and his policies as President prove out that statement. Unlike Kerry, whose voting record in the Senate is about as far left liberal as you could find(with the possible exception of Ted Kennedy). Suffice it to say that from James Carville and Lanny Davis on the left to Charles Krauthammer and Pat Buchanan on the right and dozens in between, the general consensus is that Kerry lost because he was too liberal for the majority of the American electorate. An electorate that has, for more than three decades, been moving steadily toward being more conservative. Whether you like it or not, that is a fact. So my suggestion would be for you to remain in Canada, and have as little contact with America as you can, because this is an ongoing trend that is going to continue for the foreseeable future and only provide you with cause for further frustration.. To put it bluntly, you're so ill-informed and close minded that any kind of actual discussion with you is virtually impossible. BTW, is I suspect the word you wanted was "corroborative", but in your case possibly "collaborative" is more accurate. >g< "corroborative" serving to support or corroborate, collateral evidence. As opposed to "collaborative" accomplished by collaboration, cooperation.. "Brian" <br...@stanley-park.com> wrote in message news:Bs9jd.134542$%k.110857@pd7tw2no... > Kevin wrote: > > You can't read either. I said nothing about national policy, I was > > speaking about you and I, on an individual basis. > > The correct way to comment in a reply is to post the original comment and > then rebut underneath, like this. > > So, just where does your rebuttal apply to my post? > > > Your John F. Kennedy comment proved my point. Jack Kennedy(Bobby and Ted > > were the liberals) was by any standard a moderate, a hawk, and fiscally, > > a conservative. He sponsored and got passed through Congress the largest > > tax cut in the history of the country(up to that point in time). Like I > > said, you proved my point. > > So says you. > > Just saying a thing, doesn't make it so. > > www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/presidents/35_kennedy/psources/ps_nyliberal.html > > > And lastly, you are an individual that is willing to make wildly > > unsupportable statements that are not founded in fact. > > Which statements? Perhaps I can support said 'wildly unsupportable' > statements with citations - be more specific. > > > Statements that I would never make about other nations. > > Perhaps you are too timid? > > I understand the Bush brown shirts regularly interview or spy on US citizens > that comment unfavorably on the present regime. > > Get a dick, Kevin. > > > I think that says volumes about you as a person. >> I think your lack of collaborative argument speaks volumes about you.> > I repeat my question - Do you have any idea how the world outside your > borders view the present United States of America? > > Brian >
Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com! news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com! nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy2so!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750! not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.202.85 From: Brian <br...@stanley-park.com> Subject: Re: Four more glorious years... Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion Reply-To: br...@stanley-park.com References: <h0aid.106888$%k.29680@pd7tw2no> <Of1wjcewEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> <Wwwid.115957$%k.42599@pd7tw2no> <eqI7hC5wEHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <7kVid.132745$%k.121791@pd7tw2no> <OBnEjF#wEHA.2836@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> <Bs9jd.134542$%k.110857@pd7tw2no> <#jeWIiRxEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl> Lines: 67 User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: <7QMjd.148962$Pl.111072@pd7tw1no> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:06:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1099929987 24.71.223.147 (Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:06:27 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:06:27 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: g2news1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:4217 Kevin wrote: > The views you post are so outlandish that I'm not even going to comment on > most of them. You keep saying that, and yet, here you are. Can you say 'Iran Contra'? Is that the outlandish bit? <clipped blah blah blah blah> > ...general consensus is that Kerry lost because he was too liberal for > the majority of the American electorate. How about the outrageous state-sponsored fearmongering that preceded the election for the last two years? Where are those darn Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, anyway? You guys ever catch that Osama bin Laden guy - you know, the guy that actually attacked the United States, unlike Iraq. > Whether you like it or not, that is a fact. Says you. Bush is gutting the US financial future for decades to come with unprecedented debt. > So my suggestion would be for you to remain in Canada, I will go where I please - at least *I* will be welcome in most parts of the world when I travel. > and have as little contact with America as you can, You fool, I live in America as well. > because this is an ongoing trend that is going to continue for the > foreseeable future and only provide you with cause for further > frustration.. I will be retiring in the next couple years. I plan to move to Central *America* (Costa Rica to be exact). That is unless the US decides to 'liberate' the Ticas from their tranquil and peaceful lifestyle. > To put it bluntly, you're so ill-informed and close minded that any kind > of actual discussion with you is virtually impossible. You are so insular and myopic, you cannot see the forest for the trees. > BTW, is I suspect the word you wanted was "corroborative", but in your > case possibly "collaborative" is more accurate. >g< > "corroborative" serving to support or corroborate, collateral evidence. > As opposed to "collaborative" accomplished by collaboration, > cooperation.. Thank you - you are correct. Riddle me this, Batman; Do you have ANY IDEA how the United States and Bush are viewed outside your borders? ... I didn't think so. Brian