The SCO Slugfest

Message ID: 161749
Posted By: b29651
Posted On: 2004-08-01 21:01:00
Subject: The SCO Slugfest

http://www.cio.com/archive/080104/sco_intro.html
BY SCOTT BERINATO

this story has so much wrong with it i couldnt even begin to post a small section

br3n

Message ID: 161752
Posted By: b29651
Posted On: 2004-08-01 21:35:00
Subject: Re: The SCO Slugfest

i didnt even bother to give feedback to them
it just went on and on with inaccuracies
br3n

Message ID: 161757
Posted By: heimdal31
Posted On: 2004-08-01 22:15:00
Subject: Re: The SCO Slugfest

<< this story has so much wrong with it i couldnt even begin to post a small section>>

Absolutely unbelievable.

Since this is in CIO, which is targeted gratis at CIO's, some of us may deal with PHB questions after reading this article.

The article does get the incredible losses and SCOSource and the stock-fall right at the end. However, it is not clear that this information will be in the paper copy.

Also, it will be very easy to point out the additional information. The article was apparently written some time ago (the dangers of dealing with physical publication) and does not have the most recent moves in the AutoZone case or the Daimler Chrysler case.

Remember, don't only point out how poorly SCO has done in both of those cases, but point out that every person SCO has sued first (IBM, DC, Novell, AutoZone) is someone that SCO has a pre-existing contractual relationship with. You could also point out that in the only case where there was no pre-existing relationship (Red Hat) SCO is the one demanding a stay.

Message ID: 161768
Posted By: b29651
Posted On: 2004-08-01 23:01:00
Subject: Re: The SCO Slugfest

someday i hope to be able to research as good as you and others on this board
excellent find
really shows where the *facts* are coming from
br3n

Message ID: 161797
Posted By: nobbutl
Posted On: 2004-08-02 05:17:00
Subject: Research, was Re: The SCO Slugfest

This is just the beginning of an answer to Bren's question, does anybody else want to contribute?

1) read article and get angry. Shout "Who wrote this crap and why is he lying to me". (Those are usually the key questions.)

2) Go to front of article, find BY SCOTT BERINATO, paste him "with quotes" into Google. NB, it helps to increase the number of results per page in Google's Preferences (I use 30), and if like me you enjoy profanity or random sleaze, turn off the filtering.

3) Skim the results, note comments like "Scott Berinato brings seven years of journalism experience to CXO Media, where he covers blah blah". Seven years? Just a kid. Pah. Open every interesting link in a new Mozilla tab (or opera or konq) so that you don't have to keep backtracking. If there apparently other people with the same name, try to find a CV, biography or personal home page that will give mail address, employment history etc, and use those names to search within the results. Again, use several tabs.

4) Try to spot proper names that appear several times or that reveal affiliations (eg, CIO CSO and CXO). Open links in new tabs to Google the ones you don't recognise. The link to "CIO Marketing Resource - About CXO Media" looks good.

5) Look at *all* the tabs you opened one by one, skim each one, open revealing links in new tabs, make any notes and then close the tab. When there are no more tabs, you have finished, and you can draw your conclusions.

6) If you are researching someone with the Geek-nature (not Scott), search on Google Groups too. For fun, do a Google image search. In Scott's case the third photo is the best likeness.

And our conclusion on Scott? He's apparently not evil (http://www.the-inquirer.com/?article=15188 and http://www.cio.com/archive/010102/shop.html) but he is a bit of a naive fud merchant (http://www.grc.com/lt/history.htm and http://www.csoonline.com/read/080103/patch.html)

Message ID: 162171
Posted By: nobbutl
Posted On: 2004-08-02 18:58:00
Subject: Research, part II

Some more random things I've learnt from the research maestros who hang out here.

1) Save your own copy. The bad guys will remove stuff without notice - SCOX's modified Unix timeline, Canopy's list of companies, Bert Young's biography at LANDesk etc.

2) Go back later and see what's changed, eg the SCOForum breakout sessions, or Royce's investment reports. This works best if you've saved a copy of the old page!

3) If something has disappeared, use the Google cache, or use www.archive.org. Again, save a copy, they will remove pages on request from the bad guys.

4) Search for affiliated people or firms by putting the address (including variations) into Google (or phone number, UK postcode, IP address range, domain names - all these might be shared with other bad guys). Google isn't as comprehensive as it used to be - so try to find and use local directories or trade associations.

5) Find out about the subject's education and employment history, it is shocking how these people have been hanging out with the same mob since forever. Charities and recreation too.

6) Lots of clueless tech firms love to build their websites out of fashion victim crap (like flash) that Google doesn't index well, so you'll have to find the good stuff manually. All companies want new business, so try to put yourself in the position of a potential new customer or investor and just follow the links - company profile, success stories, etc.

7) Ask! This board seems to have someone in every corner of the States who can visit courtrooms or maildrops or AdTI's safe-houses. Maybe even phone SCOX investor relations or the SEC, your friends will be grateful!

7) You will sometimes find a homepage with pictures of fluffy cats on it, please try not to vomit.

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