ADTI Usenet post

Message ID: 135725
Posted By: heimdal31
Posted On: 2004-05-20 10:44:00
Subject: ADTI Usenet post

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<< From: Justin Orndorff (jorndorff@adti.net)
Subject: research inquiry
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Newsgroups: alt.os.development
Date: 2004-05-06 11:39:11 PST

Greetings,

I'm conducting some research on behalf of the Alexis de Tocqueville
Institution in Washington, DC. I'd like if someone could shed some
light on the following questions:

1. Describe the components of an operating system, besides the central
component, the kernel.
2. What do programmers usually develop first, the compiler or the
kernel?
3. Does this sequence impact the OS at all?
4. What's more complicated, the kernel or the compiler?
5. Why does operating system development take as long as it does? What
are the three key things in operating system development that take the
longest to perfect?
6. Do you need operating systems familiarity to write a kernel? Yes /
no? Elaborate please.
7. In your opinion, why aren't there more operating systems on the
market?

Thanks for your time. Best,
Justin Orndorff>>

Message ID: 135735
Posted By: rgriffith64
Posted On: 2004-05-20 10:55:00
Subject: Re: ADTI Usenet post

LMAO. I am going to have to subscribe to that newsgroup now.

These questions are answered in
1) undergraduate course in every university
2) the text books used by the courses

Funding by Microsoft $xxM
Using Usenet for research "priceless"

Message ID: 135731
Posted By: moonrealestate2000
Posted On: 2004-05-20 10:52:00
Subject: Re: ADTI Usenet post

<< 2. What do programmers usually develop first, the compiler or the
kernel?
3. Does this sequence impact the OS at all?>>

Somehow i get the feeling that those guys at ADTI are not very familiar with software development or very hardcore assembler programmers.

Message ID: 135745
Posted By: stats_for_all
Posted On: 2004-05-20 11:11:00
Subject: Re: ADTI Usenet Justin's bio

http://www.cinemaminima.com/blogs/orndorff/

Currently I'm studying English at the University of Maryland - College Park, says Justin Orndorff. Through the English program I've taken a number of courses on film analysis through the English department. In the future, I plan on attending film school and branching out towards a possible teaching position while venturing deeper into my studies in film. As for as film production, I've yet to complete a project, though I have written a number of papers on film theory and analysis.

Message ID: 135760
Posted By: heimdal31
Posted On: 2004-05-20 11:29:00
Subject: OT: Justin and English majors

<< Currently I'm studying English at the University of Maryland - College Park, says Justin Orndorff. Through the English program I've taken a number of courses on film analysis through the English department.>>

I may regret this post, but before anyone starts bashing Justin just because of his major, I'll have you know that my undergraduate degree is in English and I took one film analysis course while getting that degree. (Of course, I took a number of Comp. Sci courses as well as quite a bit of math beyond Calculus.)

As a grad student, I taught some English courses, including one that was taken primarily by English or Education undergrads, one that was primarily taken by Engineering students and freshman comp. Now, the comparison may not be completely fair because the English/Ed. course was a sophomore level and the Engineering one was a senior level course and the freshman comp, was obviously primarily freshman. However, all courses were required by the target majors. So, I got to see a cross-section of all university students at the freshman level, English majors at the sophomore level and Engineering students about to graduate. The Engineers were by far the most intelligent and the better students--which is not to say that they necessarily got better grades but to say that they actually tried to absorb what you had to say and asked probing questions. The English/Ed majors struck me as much dimmer bulbs then even the freshman cross-section--depressingly enough for someone who has a child about to enter the public education system, the Ed majors were much dimmer on average than the English majors.

However, despite the English majors being generally dim, I will say that the bright ones there were very bright and I do think that a good English major can excel at exactly the kind of research that is occurring here and on Groklaw. And believe it or not, I credit some of the critical thinking and research skills with helping me as a developer over the years.

So, anticipating the inevitable bashing of Justin for his major, I'd like to suggest that we bash him because he appears to be an idiot who thinks he can come in and understand a topic well enough to write about it when it is obvious that he has no clue.

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