From al Mon Apr 26 09:06:48 2004 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:06:46 -0700 Message-Id: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> From: Alcove Petrofsky <alcove@petrofsky.org> To: pj@groklaw.net Subject: Daimler hearing date I just got an email from the Oakland County (Michigan) clerk. Apparently, that "Notice of Hearing" that was filed on April 15 did not list a date for a hearing. As best I can determine, it was just a notice that a hearing needs to be held, and so both parties better contact the court about what days would work them (I guess I'll understand this better when I get a copy of the notice). He suggested I inquire again in two weeks to learn whether or not a date has been set. You didn't find any volunteers near Pontiac today, did you? -al
From pj@groklaw.net Mon Apr 26 09:37:53 2004 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pamela Jones <pj@groklaw.net> Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:37:51 -0400 To: Alcove Petrofsky <alcove@petrofsky.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) I didn't find the person, no. But I haven't had time to look hard yet. Did you ask them if they can fax? I'll pay for the filings, if they are willing. On Apr 26, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Alcove Petrofsky wrote: > I just got an email from the Oakland County (Michigan) clerk. > Apparently, that "Notice of Hearing" that was filed on April 15 did > not list a date for a hearing. As best I can determine, it was just a > notice that a hearing needs to be held, and so both parties better > contact the court about what days would work them (I guess I'll > understand this better when I get a copy of the notice). He suggested > I inquire again in two weeks to learn whether or not a date has been > set. > > You didn't find any volunteers near Pontiac today, did you? > > -al >
From al Mon Apr 26 10:05:20 2004 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:05:18 -0700 Message-Id: <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> From: Alomancy Petrofsky <alomancy@petrofsky.org> To: pj@groklaw.net In-reply-to: <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> (message from Pamela Jones on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:37:51 -0400) Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> They already told me two weeks ago that their policy is not to fax to anyone but law enforcement. Of course, they told me that at the same time that they made an exception to the policy and faxed me a one-page docket sheet. There may be hope that someone could sweet-talk them into faxing an entire pleading, but I'm not inclined to try that myself. Larry Greenemeier said "we'll see what we can do" about getting someone to the clerk's office. -al
From pj@groklaw.net Mon Apr 26 10:12:25 2004 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <DFF4C79F-97A4-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pamela Jones <pj@groklaw.net> Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:12:19 -0400 To: Alomancy Petrofsky <alomancy@petrofsky.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Well, I guess I could contact the law firm, too. On Apr 26, 2004, at 1:05 PM, Alomancy Petrofsky wrote: > They already told me two weeks ago that their policy is not to fax to > anyone but law enforcement. Of course, they told me that at the same > time that they made an exception to the policy and faxed me a one-page > docket sheet. There may be hope that someone could sweet-talk them > into faxing an entire pleading, but I'm not inclined to try that > myself. > > Larry Greenemeier said "we'll see what we can do" about getting > someone to the clerk's office. > > -al >
From al Mon Apr 26 10:58:17 2004 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:58:15 -0700 Message-Id: <200404261758.KAA13937@radish.petrofsky.org> From: Alcoholic Petrofsky <alcoholic@petrofsky.org> To: pj@groklaw.net In-reply-to: <DFF4C79F-97A4-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> (message from Pamela Jones on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:12:19 -0400) Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> <DFF4C79F-97A4-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> > Well, I guess I could contact the law firm, too. D'oh! I didn't even think of that option. The docket lists Stephen L Tupper as Daimler's counsel. His web page is http://www.dykema.com/bio/default.asp?firstname=Stephen&lastname=Tupper which includes his email and phone number: <stupper@dykema.com>, 248-203-0895. I won't try contacting him because if I were him I wouldn't want to start doing courtesies for every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the internet. You represent lots of people though, and can point to your record of making things available to everyone (so he needn't worry about getting any more requests). On the other hand, if you're swamped, I guess I could try calling him for you "from the offices of Pamela Jones". Yeah, that might be the ticket: I'm not nobody, I'm a para-para-legal, damnit. -al
From pj@groklaw.net Mon Apr 26 11:22:23 2004 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <200404261758.KAA13937@radish.petrofsky.org> References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> <DFF4C79F-97A4-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261758.KAA13937@radish.petrofsky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <A65F6D3C-97AE-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pamela Jones <pj@groklaw.net> Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:22:17 -0400 To: Alcoholic Petrofsky <alcoholic@petrofsky.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Thanks, for the email address, not to mention the endlessly funny new names... I can write to him, now that you did the hard part, finding stuff. I have 500 story submissions. If I send you a chunk, would you like to go through them and see if there is any "there" there in any of them? Obviously there is no deadline, but I'm so swamped, I'm falling more and more behind. And you seem to have the necessary skills. I've been hoping you'd show up. On Apr 26, 2004, at 1:58 PM, Alcoholic Petrofsky wrote: >> Well, I guess I could contact the law firm, too. > > D'oh! I didn't even think of that option. The docket lists Stephen L > Tupper as Daimler's counsel. His web page is > > > http://www.dykema.com/bio/default.asp? > firstname=Stephen&lastname=Tupper > > which includes his email and phone number: < stupper@dykema.com>, > 248-203-0895. > > I won't try contacting him because if I were him I wouldn't want to > start doing courtesies for every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the internet. > You represent lots of people though, and can point to your record of > making things available to everyone (so he needn't worry about getting > any more requests). > > On the other hand, if you're swamped, I guess I could try calling him > for you "from the offices of Pamela Jones". Yeah, that might be the > ticket: I'm not nobody, I'm a para-para-legal, damnit. > > -al >
From al Mon Apr 26 15:26:39 2004 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:26:38 -0700 Message-Id: < 200404262226.PAA15065@radish.petrofsky.org> From: Alabama Petrofsky <alabama@petrofsky.org> To: pj@groklaw.net In-reply-to: <A65F6D3C-97AE-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> (message from Pamela Jones on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:22:17 -0400) Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> <DFF4C79F-97A4-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261758.KAA13937@radish.petrofsky.org> <A65F6D3C-97AE-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> > Thanks, for the email address, not to mention the endlessly funny new > names... You're welcome. I have emacs programmed to semi-automatically select a name for each message (but I just go with "Al" when I'm trying to make a less questionable first impression). > I have 500 story submissions. If I send you a chunk, would you like to > go through them and see if there is any "there" there in any of them? Sure, but please don't send me any with large attachments. My mail setup is a bit rickety right now. One problem is, if I may use a Darl word, my "taint". I'm short 10,000 shares of SCOX. If there's a large increase in the investing public's estimation of SCO's prospects, it could cause substantial damage to my finances. Even if it's just a temporary spike in the price, my lender could recall the loan at the wrong time and I would have to purchase SCOX at the then-current price (that's the frightening thing about being short rather than long: it's not enough to be right about where the price will eventually be, you also need to be not-too-terribly-wrong about where it will be at all points between now and "eventually"). Thus, I have an interest in suppressing any information favorable to SCO. Therefore, it would probably be inappropriate for me to screen your mail unless someone disinterested is also looking through it for exculpatory evidence. All that being said, if you look through my postings at groklaw and yahoo, you'll see that most of them are actually pointing out errors in the posts of more rabid linux supporters (who have been wrongly predicting SCO's imminent doom over and over for twelve months), and discouraging naive investors from taking huge risks they don't understand. By the way, I'm a "Registered Representative" with the NASD, i.e., a licensed stock broker / investment advisor, although I quit my job in that industry in December. As with any other broker, you can look up (the lack of) any customer complaints about me at pdpi.nasdr.com/pdpi (my CRD# is 4169912). You may wish to consult with your or OSRM's counsel about to what extent you need to keep an arm's-length between us and/or disclose that I'm in it for the money (as well as the love). -al
From al Mon Apr 26 15:35:54 2004 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:35:52 -0700 Message-Id: <200404262235.PAA15105@radish.petrofsky.org> From: Alsace-Lorraine Petrofsky <alsace-lorraine@petrofsky.org> To: pj@groklaw.net In-reply-to: <200404262226.PAA15065@radish.petrofsky.org> (message from Alabama Petrofsky on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:26:38 -0700) Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> <DFF4C79F-97A4-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261758.KAA13937@radish.petrofsky.org> <A65F6D3C-97AE-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404262226.PAA15065@radish.petrofsky.org> I wrote: > if you look through my postings at groklaw and yahoo, you'll see > that most of them are actually pointing out errors in the posts of > more rabid linux supporters ..., and discouraging naive investors > from taking huge risks they don't understand. That probably wasn't clear: the huge risk I'm talking about here is that of selling SCOX short. The few people on the yahoo board who are actually buying SCOX generally seem too hopeless to bother trying to reason with. -al
From pj@groklaw.net Tue Apr 27 21:18:30 2004 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <200404262226.PAA15065@radish.petrofsky.org> References: <200404261606.JAA13488@radish.petrofsky.org> <0F39EB83-97A0-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261705.KAA13756@radish.petrofsky.org> <DFF4C79F-97A4-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404261758.KAA13937@radish.petrofsky.org> <A65F6D3C-97AE-11D8-84F5-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> <200404262226.PAA15065@radish.petrofsky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: < 137122AD-98CB-11D8-BD4F-003065E871D4@groklaw.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pamela Jones <pj@groklaw.net> Subject: Re: Daimler hearing date Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:18:17 -0400 To: Alabama Petrofsky <alabama@petrofsky.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) I just got to this email. Eeek. I need to think about this. If you hadn't told me, that'd be different. But now... Ah, rats. On Apr 26, 2004, at 6:26 PM, Alabama Petrofsky wrote: >> Thanks, for the email address, not to mention the endlessly funny new >> names... > > You're welcome. I have emacs programmed to semi-automatically select > a name for each message (but I just go with "Al" when I'm trying to > make a less questionable first impression). > >> I have 500 story submissions. If I send you a chunk, would you like >> to >> go through them and see if there is any "there" there in any of them? > > Sure, but please don't send me any with large attachments. My mail > setup is a bit rickety right now. > > One problem is, if I may use a Darl word, my "taint". I'm short > 10,000 shares of SCOX. If there's a large increase in the investing > public's estimation of SCO's prospects, it could cause substantial > damage to my finances. Even if it's just a temporary spike in the > price, my lender could recall the loan at the wrong time and I would > have to purchase SCOX at the then-current price (that's the > frightening thing about being short rather than long: it's not enough > to be right about where the price will eventually be, you also need to > be not-too-terribly-wrong about where it will be at all points between > now and "eventually"). > > Thus, I have an interest in suppressing any information favorable to > SCO. Therefore, it would probably be inappropriate for me to screen > your mail unless someone disinterested is also looking through it for > exculpatory evidence. > > All that being said, if you look through my postings at groklaw and > yahoo, you'll see that most of them are actually pointing out errors > in the posts of more rabid linux supporters (who have been wrongly > predicting SCO's imminent doom over and over for twelve months), and > discouraging naive investors from taking huge risks they don't > understand. By the way, I'm a "Registered Representative" with the > NASD, i.e., a licensed stock broker / investment advisor, although I > quit my job in that industry in December. As with any other broker, > you can look up (the lack of) any customer complaints about me at > pdpi.nasdr.com/pdpi (my CRD# is 4169912). > > You may wish to consult with your or OSRM's counsel about to what > extent you need to keep an arm's-length between us and/or disclose > that I'm in it for the money (as well as the love). > > -al >
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