EV1 Servers?

Message ID: 100051
Posted By: phandsvrta
Posted On: 2004-03-01 08:52:00
Subject: EV1 Servers?

Can you give us (well, me anyway) a clue as to what you're referring? Is there some piece of news I missed? If so, post a reference, please.

Paul

Message ID: 100052
Posted By: b29651
Posted On: 2004-03-01 08:54:00
Subject: Re: Who is EV1Servers.Net ??

EV1Servers.Net

doesnt this company deserve some special attention
who owns it and all financial info?
also who uses it so we can apply pressure so the customers decided to move away maybe? in other words boycott?
br3n

Message ID: 100053
Posted By: b29651
Posted On: 2004-03-01 08:56:00
Subject: Re: EV1 Servers?

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040301/lam082_1.html
there ya go
br3n

Message ID: 100061
Posted By: jcauseyfd
Posted On: 2004-03-01 09:09:00
Subject: Re: Who is EV1Servers.Net ??

Hmmm, unless I'm missing something, it looks like they are an MS house. At least that is what their own site is running on and what they advertise on their site. So why pick up an SCO IP license? Were they worried SCO's IP might be in MS products they use? Oh yeah, that's right - SCO own all your code.

JCausey

Message ID: 100084
Posted By: rgriffith64
Posted On: 2004-03-01 09:54:00
Subject: www.ev1-sucks.com

Lots of unsatisfied customers:
http://www.ev1-sucks.com/nuke/

Message ID: 100106
Posted By: crunchie812
Posted On: 2004-03-01 10:06:00
Subject: Re: Who is EV1Servers.Net ??

<< I thought all the talk of the rabid linux hit-men was trash. Now I read you proposing exactly that sort of irresponsible nonsense. Just the type of action previously ascribed to the hit-men, and vigorously denied by many. You should be ashamed.>>

WTF? You prefer that consumers should just lay down and accept whatever the corporate good ole boy network dishes out? Actively standing up for your rights is being a hit man? Yes, the hit man talk was trash. And so is your insult to b3rn.

Message ID: 100128
Posted By: phandsvrta
Posted On: 2004-03-01 10:17:00
Subject: Re: Who is EV1Servers.Net ??

br3n is proposing nothing of the sort.

What she is proposing is informed choice for EV1's customers,not some form of DOS attack.

I note there's nothing about this on EV1's web site, at least when I looked a short time ago. Also see at least one other post on this board re an EV1 customer (or at least, claiming to be - how does one tell?) being sickened by the whole idea.

I think you owe br3n an apology.

Paul

Message ID: 100129
Posted By: b29651
Posted On: 2004-03-01 10:18:00
Subject: Re: Who is EV1Servers.Net ??

ashamed of what
as a consumer i am allowed to speak out if i disagree with policies
it is still free speech even though from what i read today this guy with EV1 might be as sue happy as sco is i am still allowed to encourage others to check out his company to make sure they want to do business with him..besides who made you guardian on here?
i didnt vote for you
so your opinion is same as mine
an opinion
you freaks just dont get it do you
as a person i have just as much right as you do
eat it
lump it
get over it
you sound like a businessman
maybe an insider from sco?
hope so
got your post marked
br3n

Message ID: 100252
Posted By: crunchie812
Posted On: 2004-03-01 12:05:00
Subject: Menage a trois Licensing scam

Microsoft provides the SCOG $millions in loan cum licensing deal to attack their No. 1 threat, Linux.

Microsoft touts EV1 in Win2003/Linux case study.

Netcraft names EV1 the top Win2003 hosting provider.

EV1 has amazingly low, low pricing for Win2003 servers.

EV1 buys SCO IP license just days before Q1 conference call, and on the day of the PIPE and Boies deals deadline.

Coincidence or Conspiracy? Let the DoJ make the call.

Message ID: 100439
Posted By: korbomite
Posted On: 2004-03-01 17:07:00
Subject: EV1 Servers Company Losing Customers

...and now featured on /.

Wanna bet they BK soon, as a result of this deal?

ESPECIALLY if they run up against RHAT/vmlinux GPL lawsuits, since they cannot conform with BOTH SCO's illegal license AND the GPL...think about it...they sell ONLY RHEL (not SCOLinux or SCOSource)...RHAT is suing SCOX and indemnifies their users now...RHAT puts EV1 on notice to cease-and-desist (as they nmust or risk their own distribution rights under the GPL) or face a lawsuit.

EV1, you shoulda stayed out of this.

k

Message ID: 100469
Posted By: zeebo12345
Posted On: 2004-03-01 17:53:00
Subject: Re: EV1 Servers Company Losing Customers

Although EV1 will no doubt be losing customers because of this move, there is nothing in today's announcement that means that they will be in trouble with RedHat.

Red Hat provides EV1 Linux and support. SCO provides EV1 with a license to use unspecified 'SCO IP', which for all we know is nothing. Buying a worthless license does not interfere with their Linux license.

Message ID: 100482
Posted By: korbomite
Posted On: 2004-03-01 18:19:00
Subject: Re: EV1 Servers Company Losing Customers

>> Buying a worthless license does not interfere with their Linux license.<<

We DO know what it says. Accorrding to the PR report, it is a SCOSource license, which copy or terms and conditions is posted on their web pages, I believe. Since applying this license (and SCO's subsequent actions) to GPL'd software violates the GPL, EV1 is not allowed to further distribute, modify or use Linux software and they are in violation of RHAT's licenses, too. Additionally, they put RHAT at risk of losing the ability to distribute GPL'd software, should RHAT support them, while they are in violation.

They ARE distributing and modifying GPL'd code, if they are using RHEL.

k

Message ID: 100490
Posted By: diogenese19348
Posted On: 2004-03-01 18:31:00
Subject: Re: EV1 Servers Company Losing Customers

<<
We DO know what it says. Accorrding to the PR report, it is a SCOSource license, which copy or terms and conditions is posted on their web pages, I believe. Since applying this license (and SCO's subsequent actions) to GPL'd software violates the GPL, EV1 is not allowed to further distribute, modify or use Linux software and they are in violation of RHAT's licenses, too. Additionally, they put RHAT at risk of losing the ability to distribute GPL'd software, should RHAT support them, while they are in violation.
>>

Sorry Korb, to be fair we do NOT know what the contract says. This was not a court or SEC filing, this was a press release, and SCO routinely lies in them. There is no reason to believe EV1 bought a standard license, in fact, there is good reason to believe they did not.

I suspect EL1 was paid a certain amount of money, did I say that, silly me, I meant stock options to allow their name to be used. I suspect the license did not cost them a cent, M$ picked up the tab.

Notice how their website is strangely silent on the issue? Wouldn't you at least think they would post a 'use linux here with confidence' post? If not, what the hell are they getting out of this?

I do not think there was a damned word about Linux in the license they bought. Not even a hint.

Message ID: 100568
Posted By: korbomite
Posted On: 2004-03-01 21:36:00
Subject: About EV1

EV1 has become famous as a porn hosting site:

http://hosts4porn.com/profiles/ev1.cfm

and

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archive/thread/140124-1.html (hint why they changed their name from RackShack--their IP address was blackholed for porn spamming)

and

From Wired Magazine:

QUOTE
Since mid-September, numerous myNetWatchman participants have received repeated probes on port 135 from a handful of Internet protocol addresses assigned to Everyones Internet (EV1.net), an Internet service provider in Houston, according to Baldwin. The numeric addresses translate into "NetBIOS machine names" that begin with WEBPOPUP and that have appeared in several recent ads, he said...EV1.net officials, who did not respond to interview requests, are investigating the issue, according to Baldwin...Now that spammers have pioneered the Windows Messenger technology, worm writers may be next to target the service, according to Harlan Carvey, a security engineer with a financial services firm..."I'm sure we're going to see spyware or malware that makes use of this," Carvey said.
ENDQUOTE

from
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,55795,00.html

and

http://jdo.org/hamas.html (That's right: Hamas and the al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade terrorists use EV1 as their ISP and hosting provider)

and

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/02/1064988318651.html (hackers and Trojan writers)

k

Message ID: 100706
Posted By: phandsvrta
Posted On: 2004-03-02 05:47:00
Subject: More EV1 replies

>> SCO already has like $60 million on hand and our small fee would not go very far defending an action such as this, much less prosecuting one.

We make no endorsement of SCO nor do we make any admission as to their claims.<<

From Robert Marsh's post on http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42270

So, the fee is "small", and they're (apparently) not endorsing SCO!

This smells - surprise, surprise!

Paul

Message ID: 100725
Posted By: phandsvrta
Posted On: 2004-03-02 08:18:00
Subject: EV1 Linux Users are NOT happy

I think they just lost almost their entire Linux customer base. The protest traffic on their discussion forum is running very high.

Oh well, now they can convert entirely to Windoze. Oh, but then they won't need a SCO license - DOH!

What a maroon, to quote bugs bunny.

Message ID: 115601
Posted By: moonrealestate2000
Posted On: 2004-03-25 08:45:00
Subject: Peter Pathos about EV1 and SCO

Netcraft has an interview with a Peter Pathos, President, The Planet Hosting

"Peter Pathos has guided The Planet Internet Services of Dallas through a period of dynamic growth, posting impressive numbers in the first two months of 2004. Pathos, the company's president, launched The Planet after selling the ISP he founded, National Knowledge Networks, to Verio in 1998. In an interview with Rich Miller, Pathos shares his views about hosting technology, the SCO case, and how security issues will bring about the death of the "mom-and-pop" hosting company.
...
Q. EV1Servers, one of your chief competitors in the dedicated server sector, recently signed an intellectual property license with SCO regarding its Linux servers. What is The Planet's position on the merits of SCO's intellectual property license? What kind of feedback are you hearing from customers regarding recent news developments in the SCO matter?

A. There is obviously a very negative tone surrounding the recent license agreement between SCO and EV1. Robert Marsh and EV1 have been very successful since their inception, and I am certain this was a solid business decision for Robert. Currently, The Planet legal team is reviewing all information regarding the SCO lawsuits and alleged claims of infringement. At this time, The Planet has not entered into an agreement with SCO and does not support the legal stance of SCO. We believe SCO is alienating the open source community along with current and future potential customers."

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/25/interview_peter_pathos_president_th e_planet.html

P.S.: Peter Pathons, President the Planet must look funny on a business card.

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