Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02! supernews.com!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!128.230.129.106! news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be! pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED! not-for-mail From: "Brian" <sub...@post.com> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion Subject: Just as I said... Lines: 29 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: <LcaU7.24691$cv4.460016@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 00:24:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.69.255.206 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1008807851 24.69.255.206 (Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:24:11 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:24:11 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: archiver1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:42058 To Brian (MVP) et al; Here is the word; The Register today: <quote> The bottom line of the NPD figures he has is that WinXP is by no means the incredible elixir of life that Microsoft's spinmeisters peddled it as being. It sold 400,000 copies in October, and then 250,000 in November, whereas Windows 98 (which The Register recalls as an upgrade that was somewhat less than compelling) sold 580,000 in its first month, and 350,000 the next. So actually all of the nonsense about WinXP being the galaxy's most incredible, desirable, fast selling software product was based on pent-up demand (or pre-orders, as they're termed in less frenzied circles) funneled into the last week in October. It was an imaginary frenzy constructed entirely by Microsoft, Windows XP did not save the economy or the planet, Windows XP is just another dumb operating system. And they're not sexy, we told you so. </quote> Best regards, Brian Linux Mystic
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message From: "Nice Try" <ni...@try.com> Sender: "Nice Try" <ni...@try.com> References: <LcaU7.24691$cv4.460016@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> Subject: Just as I said... Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:37:22 -0800 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <322d01c18907$a2770510$9be62ecf@tkmsftngxa03> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Thread-Index: AcGJB6J3Y8Rk+otJRD+EUX0mben0XQ== Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion NNTP-Posting-Host: TKMSFTNGXA03 10.201.232.162 Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com! sn-xit-03!supernews.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.maxwell.syr.edu! newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!tkmsftngp01!tkmsftngxs01! tkmsftngxs02!cpmsftngxa08!cpmsftngxa07 Xref: archiver1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:42077 You missed the important sales: **But retail sales are not the key measure of an operating system's success, analysts say. Copies sold at retail are "boxed" upgrades or full versions for consumers looking to move to the newest version of Windows. *****The more accurate measure is client licenses sold to PC makers or businesses. By that accounting, analysts say, Windows XP already is primed to have the most successful first year on the market of any Microsoft operating system. "Retail sales are like gravy for Microsoft," said Howard Dyckovsky, an NPD Intelect analyst. "It helps them get their name out there and keeps them in front of the consumers. But the overwhelming majority is going to be on new computers or client licenses." Dyckovsky attributed XP's slow retail start to a number of factors including the weak economy, the saturated PC market, and presales of Windows XP PCs. While consumers had to wait until Oct. 25 to get a boxed copy of Windows XP, PC makers shipped the operating system on new computers a full month earlier. Additionally, more consumers upgrade their operating systems by buying entirely new computers, rather than buying new versions of Windows to put on older PCs, according to Dyckovsky and several others. Sales were "probably not what Microsoft expected last spring," Dyckovsky said. "But it's probably very close to what they expected after Sept. 11." http://www.activewin.com/outbound.asp? HeadlineIndex=5758&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fnews%2Ecnet%2Ecom% 2Fnews%2F0%2D1003%2D200%2D8231511%2Ehtml%3Ftag%3Dmn%5Fhd >-----Original Message----- >To Brian (MVP) et al; > >Here is the word; > >The Register today: > ><quote> >The bottom line of the NPD figures he has is that WinXP is by no means the >incredible elixir of life that Microsoft's spinmeisters peddled it as being. >It sold 400,000 copies in October, and then 250,000 in November, whereas >Windows 98 (which The Register recalls as an upgrade that was somewhat less >than compelling) sold 580,000 in its first month, and 350,000 the next. > >So actually all of the nonsense about WinXP being the galaxy's most >incredible, desirable, fast selling software product was based on pent-up >demand (or pre-orders, as they're termed in less frenzied circles) funneled >into the last week in October. It was an imaginary frenzy constructed >entirely by Microsoft, Windows XP did not save the economy or the planet, >Windows XP is just another dumb operating system. And they're not sexy, we >told you so. ></quote> > >Best regards, > >Brian >Linux Mystic > > > >. >
Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com! newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!sfo2-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia! news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator-la!news-in-la.newsfeeds.com! news-in.superfeed.net!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca! news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Brian" <sub...@post.com> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.discussion References: <LcaU7.24691$cv4.460016@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <322d01c18907$a2770510$9be62ecf@tkmsftngxa03> Subject: Re: Just as I said... Lines: 27 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: <RRfU7.26502$ip4.503352@news2.calgary.shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:49:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.69.255.206 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1008830961 24.69.255.206 (Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:49:21 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:49:21 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: archiver1.google.com microsoft.public.msn.discussion:42084 Hi NT: "Nice Try" <ni...@try.com> wrote in message news:322d01c18907$a2770510$9be62ecf@tkmsftngxa03... > You missed the important sales: I didn't miss anything. What I have noticed is that many retail sales outlets are STILL marketing ME as the default system of choice. Is this just the residuals of ME licenses purchased earlier or is XP just too problematic to install on mass systems? All the sales of Microsoft XP licenses may or may not equate to real sales or they may just be filling up the pipeline. I am working a retail client right now that has virtually stopped purchasing any Microsoft products - we are installing 10 reconditioned Compaq DeskPros with existing W98se Licences and Linux KDE 2.2 - all network services are running on Linux and SCO Unix. Best regards, Brian Linux Mystic