From: "Pat K" <pat...@msn.com>
Subject: NO email!
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:14:03 -0700
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Normally, i receive 50 emails a day minimum.  in the last three days, i have
received 7 ALLTOGETHER!

Is it still the virus problem?  is it the new "upgrade" on POP3?  i am
missing some very important emails!  does anyone know when they will return?

<panicking in Seattle>

From: "Paul Britton" <PaulBr...@msn.com>
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...looks like this issue has been resolved now?  You still having
difficulties?

Paul

"Pat K" <pat...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:#BGHB2JGBHA.412@tkmsftngp04...
> Normally, i receive 50 emails a day minimum.  in the last three days, i
have
> received 7 ALLTOGETHER!
>
> Is it still the virus problem?  is it the new "upgrade" on POP3?  i am
> missing some very important emails!  does anyone know when they will
return?
>
> <panicking in Seattle>
>
>

From: "Tom" <No...@nospammsn.com>
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Yes, 9 emails, out of 70+ sent to my account today, have been received.

Tom

"Paul Britton" <PaulBr...@msn.com> wrote in message news:eRcz0GUGBHA.1596@t=
kmsftngp05...
> ...looks like this issue has been resolved now?  You still having
> difficulties?
>=20
> Paul
>=20
> "Pat K" <pat...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:#BGHB2JGBHA.412@tkmsftngp04...
> > Normally, i receive 50 emails a day minimum.  in the last three days, i
> have
> > received 7 ALLTOGETHER!
> >
> > Is it still the virus problem?  is it the new "upgrade" on POP3?  i am
> > missing some very important emails!  does anyone know when they will
> return?
> >
> > <panicking in Seattle>
> >
> >
>=20
>=20

From: "Paul Britton" <PaulBr...@msn.com>
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Hello Tom,

   Have you considered switching to the web-based email standard?

Paul

"Tom" <No...@nospammsn.com> wrote in message
news:uCBi4LUGBHA.1392@tkmsftngp05...
Yes, 9 emails, out of 70+ sent to my account today, have been received.

Tom

"Paul Britton" <PaulBr...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:eRcz0GUGBHA.1596@tkmsftngp05...
> ...looks like this issue has been resolved now?  You still having
> difficulties?
>
> Paul
>
> "Pat K" <pat...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:#BGHB2JGBHA.412@tkmsftngp04...
> > Normally, i receive 50 emails a day minimum.  in the last three days, i
> have
> > received 7 ALLTOGETHER!
> >
> > Is it still the virus problem?  is it the new "upgrade" on POP3?  i am
> > missing some very important emails!  does anyone know when they will
> return?
> >
> > <panicking in Seattle>
> >
> >
>
>

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From: "Brian" <sub...@post.com>
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Hi Pat K and the rest:

Here is what I have been doing for the last four years. I have had numerous
ISPs including xDSL, Rogers@Home, dialups and now Shaw@Home (the best to
date - 4.5 Mb/s).

During all these changes and different ISPs I have maintained the same email
address sub...@post.com with a free mail service from mail.com that
forwards all my mail to any email address I give it or operates as a web
mail service if forwarding is turned off.

It's fast, free and has given me the same email address all these years.

They have a number of domain names including @mail.com @post.com etc.

There are many free email portals that will allow you to forward all your
mail to whatever email address your provider gives you.

I recommend this to all my clients and those that have tried this type of
service are very pleased with the results.

ISPs come and go and some are better than others. A stable email address is
an excellent asset. Hotmail will vaporize an email address if you haven't
picked up your mail for 90 days whereas I have addresses going back years
where I may not have a look for a year (I have a total of about a dozen
email addresses all told).

Here is a short list to check out;

www.mail.com (free forwarding)
www.amexmail.com (more services if amex cardholder)
www.yahoo.com (mail forwarding & pop3 access)

There are many others and many combinations of features. The problem with
Hotmail and perhaps MSN mail is they are non-standard and are subject to
frequent failure.

Let me ask one question, if you upgrade (smile) to MSN's web based mail and
news service, are your messages and posts automatically stored on your
machine or are they stored on a Microsoft machine?

Best regards,

Brian
(the other Brian)





From: "Paul Britton" <PaulBr...@msn.com>
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Hello Deb,

   We agree again. =)  I'd rather just see MSN cut loose the people who are
unhappy with the lack of focus on old servers, old authentication methods,
and old software platforms in favor of newer and more used platforms now on
MSN.  But, they try to keep the legacy users happy.

Paul

"Deb Milner" <milner_...@msn.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> If they do, that just might get me out of the damn contract.  Let 'em
> do it.

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From: Brian <sub...@post.com>
Subject: Re: NO email!
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Hi Paul:

Hi Paul:

Paul Britton wrote:
>    Have you considered switching to the 
> web-based email standard?

What "webmail standard" is that?

What standards body has issued a standard specification for web based email?

Are you talking about the Hotmail web mail system developed by the FreeBSD 
community and then embraced and extended by Microsoft so no other mail 
agent can read it other than Microsoft products?

Is that the proprietary standard you are referring to?

Microsoft up to it's old tricks, once again!

Best regards,

Brian
(the other Brian)

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Hi Paul:

Paul Britton wrote:
>  We agree again. =)  I'd rather just see MSN cut loose the 
> people who are unhappy with the lack of focus on old 
> servers, old authentication methods, and old software 
> platforms in favor of newer and more used platforms 
> now on MSN.  

That is an amazing piece of spin Paul. 

Who do you work for,? 

What is you job description? 

Do you know anything about computers and operating systems?

> But, they try to keep the legacy users happy.

Does Debra sound happy to you?

Aren't you concerned with the incompetance of the MSN help personel?

Microsoft is simply trying to lock people into a proprietary Microsoft 
technology that is inferior and less secure than the world standard POP3 
and SMTP - both standards that are ruled by Unix type operating systems 
with FREE universally available applications - sendmail for one..

So Paul, what do you do? You don't have much of a feel for the truth so I'm 
guessing you are a lawyer or a senior PR person. One thing is certain, you 
don't know computers or operating system technology.

Best regards,

Brian
(the other Brian)