From: RHS Linux User <aaa@bbb.ccc> Subject: Idea: Linux@Home distribution Date: 1998/07/02 Message-ID: <359BDA44.57E71837@bbb.ccc>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 368169519 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps, comp.os.linux.development.system --- Do not reply to the email address listed in the from field --- Use j.perXrynosXpam.lynx.dac.neu.edu - without the words nospam or the Xs keep the dot after the j --- and keep the lowercase x RedHat provides an excellent distribution for technical types but it occurs to me there is an opportunity for them to start to fill the Home market niche now. I sent this message also to RedHat tech support (sup...@redhat.com) and will be interested in their reply. If they are not interested in it perhaps others will take on the challenge and create this new distribution. Either way I think it should be based a RedHat distribution with additional apps and tools added. To get an idea of what I am thinking of, think of a Compaq Presario, which is bundled with a modem and fax/answering machine software, has power management software pre-installed, etc. The Linux@Home Distribution would come with the following + Desktop Environment KDE, CDE, Gnome (or at least the two free ones) - choice is important though Include several window managers and a tool to easily switch (for more advanced users) + Office Suite Applixware and/or StarOffice + Other Applications GIMP - graphics tool ....etc....other best in class Linux tools + Other convenience apps such as xmcd for an audio cdplayer + Games yes, a few should be included as they are now in Redhat + Data/Fax/Voice answering machine software Hylafax, vgtty, voice-0.6 (all setup to work together properly and seemlessly detecting the type of phone calls and doing the right thing) + Automount of cdroms and floppies Setup amd to automount cdroms and floppies so Linux behaves more like users of NonUnix systems are accustomed to. + Power management Develop an installation tool which autodetects powersaving support and enables it in X-windows on installation. + Login User choice, no login required (configured to autologin to some user account) and start Xwindows OR - user may choose console login (usual) or XDM (or KDM if they chose KDE) + Dialup configuration Many excellent tools exist for this including the one included with KDE. Need to consider Dialup as a whole. A tool which will address all of the following would be useful. Dial on Demand (yes or no, and allow changing all related settings) Configure ISP ( allow you to define dialup ISPs sim to Win95 - and the KDE tool) Caching nameserver on local machine (a simple toggle which would turn this on or off for the user) + Email Again try to treat this as a whole. In one lpace the user should be able to configure their email info including handling multiple email pickups using something like fetchmail, their return address (use to setup sendmail properly) etc. + The Web Include a caching proxy server preconfigured to speed web access (such as apache) and block advertising (ex: internet junkbuster) Any thoughts on this? Any other ideas? Is RedHat already planning such a distribution? Would it supply Gnome only? Anyone want to work on such a distribution? Jeffrey Perry
From: Mystery Kid <myst...@juno.com> Subject: Re: Idea: Linux@Home distribution Date: 1998/07/03 Message-ID: <6nkh1r$3cf$1@news-1.news.gte.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 368600238 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <359BDA44.57E71837@bbb.ccc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: gte.net X-Auth: DB17981C438BCFD743C68491 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps, comp.os.linux.development.system I just want to show my support for your great idea! :) I am new to Linux. I am still learning it. Right now I have trouble with... well... you don't need to know... I just playing and learning from it right now... One thing I wish is a book about how to set up and use it for home personal use. Seems like most of the books out there assume that you going to use it for networking. I am not planing to do networking until I know how use Linux. Once I figure out how to use Linux, I may post a HOW-TO message on the Internet on how to set up and use Linux for home personal use. I am sure there are other people out there who also think the same thing. Right now, one of the newsgroups (I forgot which one), they having a discussion if Linux is ready for the average user. RHS Linux User wrote: > --- Do not reply to the email address listed in the from field > --- Use j.perXrynosXpam.lynx.dac.neu.edu - without the words nospam or > the Xs keep the dot after the j > --- and keep the lowercase x > > RedHat provides an excellent distribution for technical types but it > occurs to me there is an opportunity > for them to start to fill the Home market niche now. I sent this message > also to RedHat tech support > (sup...@redhat.com) and will be interested in their reply. If they are > not interested in it perhaps > others will take on the challenge and create this new distribution. > Either way I think it should > be based a RedHat distribution with additional apps and tools added. > > To get an idea of what I am thinking of, think of a Compaq Presario, > which is bundled with a modem and fax/answering machine software, has > power management software > pre-installed, etc. > > The Linux@Home Distribution would come with the following > > + Desktop Environment > > KDE, CDE, Gnome (or at least the two free ones) - choice is > important though > Include several window managers and a tool to easily switch > (for more advanced users) > > + Office Suite > > Applixware and/or StarOffice > > + Other Applications > GIMP - graphics tool > ....etc....other best in class Linux tools > > + Other convenience apps > such as xmcd for an audio cdplayer > > + Games > yes, a few should be included as they are now in Redhat > > + Data/Fax/Voice answering machine software > > Hylafax, vgtty, voice-0.6 (all setup to work together > properly and seemlessly detecting > the type of phone calls and doing the right thing) > > + Automount of cdroms and floppies > > Setup amd to automount cdroms and floppies so Linux behaves > more like users of NonUnix > systems are accustomed to. > > + Power management > > Develop an installation tool which autodetects powersaving > support and enables it in X-windows > on installation. > > + Login > > User choice, no login required (configured to autologin to some > user account) and start Xwindows > OR - user may choose console login (usual) or XDM (or KDM if > they chose KDE) > > + Dialup configuration > > Many excellent tools exist for this including the one included > with KDE. > Need to consider Dialup as a whole. A tool which will address > all of the following > would be useful. > > Dial on Demand (yes or no, and allow changing all > related settings) > Configure ISP ( allow you to define dialup ISPs sim > to Win95 - and the KDE tool) > Caching nameserver on local machine > (a simple toggle which would > turn this on or off for the user) > > + Email > > Again try to treat this as a whole. > In one lpace the user should be able to configure their email > info including handling > multiple email pickups using something like fetchmail, their > return address (use > to setup sendmail properly) etc. > > + The Web > > Include a caching proxy server preconfigured to speed web access > (such as apache) > and block advertising (ex: internet junkbuster) > > Any thoughts on this? Any other ideas? Is RedHat already planning such a > distribution? > Would it supply Gnome only? Anyone want to work on such a distribution? > > Jeffrey Perry
From: "Brian" <sub...@rogers.wave.ca> Subject: Re: Idea: Linux@Home distribution Date: 1998/07/04 Message-ID: <Xqnn1.109280$zu1.13055248@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 368630917 References: <359BDA44.57E71837@bbb.ccc> <6nkh1r$3cf$1@news-1.news.gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 03:25:59 PDT Reply-To: "Brian" <b...@mdi.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Organization: @Home Network Canada Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps, comp.os.linux.development.system Hi Kid: Check out http://www.linux-canada.com/newuser.html for a step by step instruction on downloading, installing and connecting to your ISP - even tells you how to download and print your own beginners book on Linux - ALL FOR FREE! Best regards, Brian b...@mdi.ca Mystery Kid wrote in message <6nkh1r$3cf$1...@news-1.news.gte.net>... >I just want to show my support for your great idea! :) >I am new to Linux. I am still learning it. Right now I have trouble with... >well... you don't need to know... I just playing and learning from it right >now... >One thing I wish is a book about how to set up and use it for home personal >use. Seems like most of the books out there assume that you going to use it >for networking. I am not planing to do networking until I know how use >Linux. >Once I figure out how to use Linux, I may post a HOW-TO message on the >Internet on how to set up and use Linux for home personal use. <clipped for brevity>