From: RHS Linux User <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Subject: Idea: Linux@Home distribution
Date: 1998/07/02
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RedHat provides an excellent distribution for technical types but it
occurs to me there is an opportunity
for them to start to fill the Home market niche now. I sent this message
also to RedHat tech support
(sup...@redhat.com) and will be interested in their reply. If they are
not interested in it perhaps
others will take on the challenge and create this new distribution.
Either way I think it should
be based a RedHat distribution with additional apps and tools added.

To get an idea of what I am thinking of, think of a Compaq Presario,
which is bundled with a modem and fax/answering machine software, has
power management software
pre-installed, etc.

The Linux@Home Distribution  would come with the following

    + Desktop Environment

            KDE, CDE, Gnome (or at least the two free ones) - choice is
important though
            Include several window managers and a tool to easily switch
            (for more advanced users)

    + Office Suite

            Applixware and/or StarOffice

    + Other Applications
            GIMP - graphics tool
            ....etc....other best in class Linux tools

    + Other convenience apps
            such as xmcd for an audio cdplayer

    + Games
            yes, a few should be included as they are now in Redhat

    + Data/Fax/Voice answering machine software

            Hylafax, vgtty, voice-0.6 (all setup to work together
properly and seemlessly detecting
            the type of phone calls and doing the right thing)

    + Automount of cdroms and floppies

            Setup amd to automount cdroms and floppies so Linux behaves
more like users of NonUnix
    systems are accustomed to.

    + Power management

            Develop an installation tool which autodetects powersaving
support and enables it in X-windows
    on installation.

   + Login

        User choice, no login required (configured to autologin to some
user account) and start Xwindows
        OR - user may choose console login (usual) or XDM (or KDM if
they chose KDE)

    + Dialup configuration

        Many excellent tools exist for this including the one included
with KDE.
        Need to consider Dialup as a whole. A tool which will address
all of the following
        would be useful.

            Dial on Demand     (yes or no, and allow changing all
related settings)
            Configure ISP        ( allow you to define dialup ISPs sim
to Win95 - and the KDE tool)
            Caching nameserver  on local machine
                                        (a simple toggle which would
turn this on or off for the user)

    + Email

        Again try to treat this as a whole.
        In one lpace the user should be able to configure their email
info including handling
        multiple email pickups using something like fetchmail, their
return address (use
        to setup sendmail properly) etc.


    + The Web

        Include a caching proxy server preconfigured to speed web access
(such as apache)
        and block advertising (ex: internet junkbuster)


Any thoughts on this? Any other ideas? Is RedHat already planning such a
distribution?
Would it supply Gnome only? Anyone want to work on such a distribution?


Jeffrey Perry

From: Mystery Kid <myst...@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Idea: Linux@Home distribution
Date: 1998/07/03
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I just want to show my support for your great idea! :)

I am new to Linux. I am still learning it. Right now I have trouble with...
well... you don't need to know... I just playing and learning from it right
now...

One thing I wish is a book about how to set up and  use it for home personal
use. Seems like most of the books out there assume that you going to use it
for networking. I am not planing to do networking until I know how use
Linux.

Once I figure out how to use Linux, I may post a HOW-TO message on the
Internet on how to set up and use Linux for home personal use.

I am sure there are other people out there who also think the same thing.
Right now, one of the newsgroups (I forgot which one), they having a
discussion if Linux is ready for the average user.

RHS Linux User wrote:

> --- Do not reply to the email address listed in the from field
> --- Use j.perXrynosXpam.lynx.dac.neu.edu - without the words nospam or
> the Xs keep the dot after the j
> --- and keep the lowercase x
>
> RedHat provides an excellent distribution for technical types but it
> occurs to me there is an opportunity
> for them to start to fill the Home market niche now. I sent this message
> also to RedHat tech support
> (sup...@redhat.com) and will be interested in their reply. If they are
> not interested in it perhaps
> others will take on the challenge and create this new distribution.
> Either way I think it should
> be based a RedHat distribution with additional apps and tools added.
>
> To get an idea of what I am thinking of, think of a Compaq Presario,
> which is bundled with a modem and fax/answering machine software, has
> power management software
> pre-installed, etc.
>
> The Linux@Home Distribution  would come with the following
>
>     + Desktop Environment
>
>             KDE, CDE, Gnome (or at least the two free ones) - choice is
> important though
>             Include several window managers and a tool to easily switch
>             (for more advanced users)
>
>     + Office Suite
>
>             Applixware and/or StarOffice
>
>     + Other Applications
>             GIMP - graphics tool
>             ....etc....other best in class Linux tools
>
>     + Other convenience apps
>             such as xmcd for an audio cdplayer
>
>     + Games
>             yes, a few should be included as they are now in Redhat
>
>     + Data/Fax/Voice answering machine software
>
>             Hylafax, vgtty, voice-0.6 (all setup to work together
> properly and seemlessly detecting
>             the type of phone calls and doing the right thing)
>
>     + Automount of cdroms and floppies
>
>             Setup amd to automount cdroms and floppies so Linux behaves
> more like users of NonUnix
>     systems are accustomed to.
>
>     + Power management
>
>             Develop an installation tool which autodetects powersaving
> support and enables it in X-windows
>     on installation.
>
>    + Login
>
>         User choice, no login required (configured to autologin to some
> user account) and start Xwindows
>         OR - user may choose console login (usual) or XDM (or KDM if
> they chose KDE)
>
>     + Dialup configuration
>
>         Many excellent tools exist for this including the one included
> with KDE.
>         Need to consider Dialup as a whole. A tool which will address
> all of the following
>         would be useful.
>
>             Dial on Demand     (yes or no, and allow changing all
> related settings)
>             Configure ISP        ( allow you to define dialup ISPs sim
> to Win95 - and the KDE tool)
>             Caching nameserver  on local machine
>                                         (a simple toggle which would
> turn this on or off for the user)
>
>     + Email
>
>         Again try to treat this as a whole.
>         In one lpace the user should be able to configure their email
> info including handling
>         multiple email pickups using something like fetchmail, their
> return address (use
>         to setup sendmail properly) etc.
>
>     + The Web
>
>         Include a caching proxy server preconfigured to speed web access
> (such as apache)
>         and block advertising (ex: internet junkbuster)
>
> Any thoughts on this? Any other ideas? Is RedHat already planning such a
> distribution?
> Would it supply Gnome only? Anyone want to work on such a distribution?
>
> Jeffrey Perry

From: "Brian" <sub...@rogers.wave.ca>
Subject: Re: Idea: Linux@Home distribution
Date: 1998/07/04
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Hi Kid:

Check out http://www.linux-canada.com/newuser.html for a step by step
instruction on downloading, installing and connecting to your ISP - even
tells you how to download and print your own beginners book on Linux - ALL
FOR FREE!

Best regards,

Brian
b...@mdi.ca


Mystery Kid wrote in message <6nkh1r$3cf$1...@news-1.news.gte.net>...

>I just want to show my support for your great idea! :)

>I am new to Linux. I am still learning it. Right now I have trouble with...
>well... you don't need to know... I just playing and learning from it right
>now...

>One thing I wish is a book about how to set up and  use it for home
personal
>use. Seems like most of the books out there assume that you going to use it
>for networking. I am not planing to do networking until I know how use
>Linux.

>Once I figure out how to use Linux, I may post a HOW-TO message on the
>Internet on how to set up and use Linux for home personal use.


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