From: "Ryan Rinaldi" <gli...@uss.net>
Subject: Your opinions
Date: 1997/12/09
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I'm contemplating swiching over to Linux...I was wondering if any of u could
point me in the direction of a web page that could tell me the pros and cons
of switching from Win '95 to Linux...Any of your opinions would be
appreciated


Ryan Rinaldi
Tired Win '95 user

From: dsalton.d...@zeta.org.au (David Salton)
Subject: Re: Your opinions
Date: 1997/12/10
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Apart from the opinions already expressed, I would *highly* recommend
purchasing System Commander and Partition Magic. With these two
products in hand (and some dedicated reading of their manuals and
Linux How-Tos),  you can get the best of both worlds (several, in
fact!). You can have up to 4 primary partitions per disk (an extended
also counts as one), and I forget how many logical partitions (in the
extended), so with that power, coupled with O/Ss that can boot from
logical partitions, you can really have some fun!!


On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:41:21 -0600, "Ryan Rinaldi" <gli...@uss.net>
wrotf:

>I'm contemplating swiching over to Linux...I was wondering if any of u could
>point me in the direction of a web page that could tell me the pros and cons
>of switching from Win '95 to Linux...Any of your opinions would be
>appreciated
>
>
>Ryan Rinaldi
>Tired Win '95 user
>
>
>
>

From: Donovan Rebbechi <elflord@re*move-this.pegasus.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: Your opinions
Date: 1997/12/14
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David Salton wrote:
> 
> Apart from the opinions already expressed, I would *highly* recommend
> purchasing System Commander and Partition Magic. With these two
> products in hand 

I get really pissed off every time some-one recommends partition magic
to me. I purchased it a while ago because powerquest's website gives the
misleading impression that linux partitions are supported. This is miles
and miles from the truth. In fact, Partition magic can see linux
partitions, but can-not non-destructively resize them. Hence it really
doesn't do the job it's cracked out to do on a dual boot linux/windows
system. The only thing it's good for is swiping windows space for linux,
but then, you can do that anyway by dividing your windows space, so that
you can claim it one piece at a time. 

I might mention that Powerquest were e3xtremely incompetent and
disorganised when it came to handing my money back. They immediately
aggreed to send me a refund , and send some-one to pick up the package,
but it didn't happen despite my repeated calls. I finally settled the
issue by sending it back to them certified mail (so that at the very
least, they couldn't fraudulently claim not to have received it ) and
finally (they claim) they've made a payment to my credit card (I'll
believe it when I see the statement... it hasn't shown up on my internet
credit card record just yet... hmmmmm...) 

Powerquest suck. I wouln't trust them with my money again.

-- Donovan

From: "Brian" <brian_t...@rocketship.com>
Subject: Re: Your opinions
Date: 1997/12/14
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Hi Donovan:

I am relatively new to Linux and haven't dissected the ext2 filesystem
but from what I have read to date it is impossible to dynamically
resize a Linux native partition without completely destroying the
filesystem.

'fips.exe' certainly will not adjust the size of a Linux native
partition and makes no bones about it.

Please correct me if I am wrong folks!

As for 'Partition Magic', I won't leave home without a copy safely
tucked away for serious work. With a minimum of reading I was
performing tasks that saved me dozens of hours of re-work and
installation. It practically paid for itself the first afternoon I
used it

The ability to resize and move DOS partitions (and the data thereupon)
within a simple DOS/GUI interface is very effective and safe. Add to
that the ability to dynamically change the W95-7 FAT to FAT32 without
disturbing the contents is equally useful, if only to be able to
reverse the situation after the wheels start falling off your
favorite file and disk utilities.

Add to that a licensed copy of IBM's OS/2 Boot Manager and
Powerquest's superior alter ego PQMagic (also included a WinNT
version).

Another killer feature allows you to scan a partition for any
references to applications that are subject to drive letter changes
and makes ALL dependant changes for you - it works very well.

Partition Magic is a superb product with simple easy to understand
instructions and manual. Free updates are available for download from
their website www.powerquest.com as is a free newsletter apprising you
of new features and/or upgrades.

Partition Magic is a great product IMHO and well worth the paltry
lucre they ask in payment for anybody who is serious about DOS/W95-7
filesystems - even if it's just to reduce them in size (he he he).

I hate to so outrageously disagree with you Donovan but I felt a
counterpoint was warranted.

I am not now, nor have I ever been associated with Power Quest,
I am just a satisfied customer.
(just in case inquiring minds have to know)

Regards,

Brian.

Donovan Rebbechi wrote in message
<6704ki$d9$1...@newsmonger.rutgers.edu>...

>David Salton wrote:

>> Apart from the opinions already expressed, I would *highly*
>> recommend purchasing System Commander and Partition Magic.
>> With these two products in hand...

>I get really pissed off every time some-one recommends partition
magic
>to me. I purchased it a while ago because powerquest's website gives
the
>misleading impression that linux partitions are supported. This is
miles
>and miles from the truth. In fact, Partition magic can see linux
>partitions, but can-not non-destructively resize them. Hence it
really
>doesn't do the job it's cracked out to do on a dual boot
linux/windows
>system. The only thing it's good for is swiping windows space for
linux,
>but then, you can do that anyway by dividing your windows space, so
that
>you can claim it one piece at a time.

>I might mention that Powerquest were e3xtremely incompetent and
>disorganised when it came to handing my money back. They immediately
>aggreed to send me a refund , and send some-one to pick up the
package,
>but it didn't happen despite my repeated calls. I finally settled the
>issue by sending it back to them certified mail (so that at the very
>least, they couldn't fraudulently claim not to have received it ) and
>finally (they claim) they've made a payment to my credit card (I'll
>believe it when I see the statement... it hasn't shown up on my
internet
>credit card record just yet... hmmmmm...)

>Powerquest suck. I wouln't trust them with my money again.

>-- Donovan

From: al...@snowcrash.cymru.net (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Your opinions
Date: 1997/12/15
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In article <670tka$s...@van1s03.cyberion.com>,
Brian <brian_t...@rocketship.com> wrote:
>but from what I have read to date it is impossible to dynamically
>resize a Linux native partition without completely destroying the
>filesystem.

Not impossible. There are enough tools in e2fslib for someone to write
the support for splitting it on cylinder group boundaries. 

Alan
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